ImagineCMS | NodeJS | Websockets | Plugins | Graphql

[LeChris]

Let’s be honest, it's very hard for you to finish projects, we have now 2 beautifully cms (atom, Orion). What's your game plan to get close to them and all the functionalities they offer?

“Art is never finished, only abandoned”

When did Atom become a real time, graphql, plugin based CMS with full drag and drop support of building web pages?

 

[Laravel]

“Art is never finished, only abandoned”

When did Atom become a real time, graphql, plugin based CMS with full drag and drop support of building web pages?

Atom never became a drag and drop web builder with GraphQL and Websockets, etc... just down to the fact it would've been overkill for what Atom was primarily built to be, a multi-theme codebase with a great housekeeping using the latest technologies.


Very cool concept though, I will jump on the discord channel to watch the changes

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Lets be honest, it's very hard for you to finish projects, we have now 2 beautifully cms (atom, Orion). What's your game plan to get close to them and all the functionalities they offer?

I wouldn't personally de-moralise his efforts. This community is jam packed of people who require a lot of spoon feeding (thus atom and orion having such a on the edge of simplicity setup), and it's nice to see someone using very modern frameworks to build something for the more experienced developers to play with.

Let's look at the most modern codebase in the community, Billsons Nitro Client, written in React and uses Websockets and everyone jumped on board real quick, began understanding the codebase and excelled in making improvements.

Support projects as a community please.

 

[LeChris]

Atom never became a drag and drop web builder with GraphQL and Websockets, etc... just down to the fact it would've been overkill for what Atom was primarily built to be, a multi-theme codebase with a great housekeeping using the latest technologies.


Very cool concept though, I will jump on the discord channel to watch the changes

Post automatically merged: Sep 18, 2024

I wouldn't personally de-moralise his efforts. This community is jam packed of people who require a lot of spoon feeding (thus atom and orion having such a on the edge of simplicity setup), and it's nice to see someone using very modern frameworks to build something for the more experienced developers to play with.

Let's look at the most modern codebase in the community, Billsons Nitro Client, written in React and uses Websockets and everyone jumped on board real quick, began understanding the codebase and excelled in making improvements.

Support projects as a community please.

They were built that way because making an actual CMS is complicated. Laravel is a nice framework for generating rapid, beginner level sites but it abstracts 90% of the logic from you. Last time I used it, I was a teenager.

Laravel is extremely dated, not exactly “the latest technology.” I released a habbo cms using Laravel in 2013 lol

Neither Atom or Orion are multi theme, not in any real sense of what the word means. They let you change your public folder, but you have to rewrite the components per theme. It’s as much multi theme, as rev is when you have to recode everything.

Nobody in the community really improved Nitro, arguably I think Bill got screwed by a lot of people monetizing leaky edits of Nitro. Similar reason why I don’t let other devs work on my code, too many cooks in the kitchen will rapidly devalue a project.

 

[Laravel]

They were built that way because making an actual CMS is complicated. Laravel is a nice framework for generating rapid, beginner level sites but it abstracts 90% of the logic from you. Last time I used it, I was a teenager.

Laravel is extremely dated, not exactly “the latest technology.” I released a habbo cms using Laravel in 2013 lol

Neither Atom or Orion are multi theme, not in any real sense of what the word means. They let you change your public folder, but you have to rewrite the components per theme. It’s as much multi theme, as rev is when you have to recode everything.

Nobody in the community really improved Nitro, arguably I think Bill got screwed by a lot of people monetizing leaky edits of Nitro. Similar reason why I don’t let other devs work on my code, too many cooks in the kitchen will rapidly devalue a project.

Completely agree on the first point, the concept of a CMS is not what we build but I think for legacy reasons, people call it a CMS.

I think you need to do your research before saying "Laravel is dated", it's the most innovative framework and most supported framework in the tech community..

Opinions are opinions, i'll leave you to yours

 

[LeChris]

Completely agree on the first point, the concept of a CMS is not what we build but I think for legacy reasons, people call it a CMS.

I think you need to do your research before saying "Laravel is dated", it's the most innovative framework and most supported framework in the tech community..

Opinions are opinions, i'll leave you to yours

it’s the most supported framework in the PhP community. PhP is dated within itself , Laravel is a 15 year old framework that relies on b2b SaaS sales

I use NodeJS, Go and Rust which are much more modern and recent

 

[Object]

it’s the most supported framework in the PhP community. PhP is dated within itself , Laravel is a 15 year old framework that relies on b2b SaaS sales

I use NodeJS, Go and Rust which are much more modern and recent

Isn’t nodejs older than Laravel?

And also by saying php is dated within itself wouldn’t that count for anything Js based too if so?

From your comments it sounds like you last used laravel many many years ago and it kinda makes it seems like the regular “php sucked over a decade ago and I never bothered trying it again but still base my judgement of such” hate train.

Regardless I’ve seen u built cool stuff before and I’m sure you can make “imagine” something amazing too.

 

[Leader]

Isn’t nodejs older than Laravel?

NodeJS is not a framework. I do use NestJS which came out in 2018
That being said, pHp came out in 1995. Node 2010, Go 2012, Rust 2015. phP is literally older than I am

From your comments it sounds like you last used laravel many many years ago and it kinda makes it seems like the regular “php sucked over a decade ago and I never bothered trying it again but still base my judgement of such” hate train.

php was my first language and i used laravel, cakephp, illuminate and all the other bs. i left php for languages that have much better type support and performance. i use it now and then if a job requires it, but don't go out of my way for it.

laravel isn't bad, but it's not my cup of tea. it's a framework made for people that hate coding. laravel abstracts 90% of development away so people can make really impressive apps, but have little to no idea of what's actually being done beneath the surface /

 

[Laravel]

NodeJS is not a framework. I do use NestJS which came out in 2018
That being said, pHp came out in 1995. Node 2010, Go 2012, Rust 2015. phP is literally older than I am


php was my first language and i used laravel, cakephp, illuminate and all the other bs. i left php for languages that have much better type support and performance. i use it now and then if a job requires it, but don't go out of my way for it.

laravel isn't bad, but it's not my cup of tea. it's a framework made for people that hate coding. laravel abstracts 90% of development away so people can make really impressive apps, but have little to no idea of what's actually being done beneath the surface /

I’m gonna wrap this discussion up as I was going for the supportive approach and it looks like there is a lot of dev opinions that everyone is entitled to

Node, Nest, Laravel, Rust, GoLang, all amazing frameworks and programming languages collectively, all have great use cases and failures lol

Like I said before, appreciate seeing active development on something out of the community norm, will follow development and will throw ideas or review code where needed!

Best of luck, let’s hear some updates

 

[Weasel]

NodeJS is not a framework. I do use NestJS which came out in 2018
That being said, pHp came out in 1995. Node 2010, Go 2012, Rust 2015. phP is literally older than I am


php was my first language and i used laravel, cakephp, illuminate and all the other bs. i left php for languages that have much better type support and performance. i use it now and then if a job requires it, but don't go out of my way for it.

laravel isn't bad, but it's not my cup of tea. it's a framework made for people that hate coding. laravel abstracts 90% of development away so people can make really impressive apps, but have little to no idea of what's actually being done beneath the surface /

Say you don't know anything about development without saying you don't know anything about development.

 

[LeChris]

Say you don't know anything about development without saying you don't know anything about development.

Are you having a bad day? Want me to tuck you in and read a PhP script

 

[Laravel]

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