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<blockquote data-quote="griimnak" data-source="post: 428798" data-attributes="member: 35695"><p>Well you're right about the shit he inherited, to be fair though trump also inherited somewhat of a mess- nothing near the crisis of 2008 but, yeah.</p><p>And the philosophy i'm referring to is his america first lingo, or just general change, no more of the same shit as the last 8 years- anti establishment</p><p></p><p>here's the data on the economic shit;</p><p>(<a href="https://internationalbanker.com/brokerage/economic-impact-obama-presidency-2009-2017/" target="_blank">https://internationalbanker.com/brokerage/economic-impact-obama-presidency-2009-2017/</a>)</p><p><img src="http://internationalbanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Graph-1-1.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="http://internationalbanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Graph-3.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[SPOILER="A bunch of shit you probably don't care about"]</p><p>(<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/12/democrats-cant-win-until-they-recognize-how-bad-obamas-financial-policies-were/?utm_term=.9cc6f2b4376c" target="_blank">https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/12/democrats-cant-win-until-they-recognize-how-bad-obamas-financial-policies-were/?utm_term=.9cc6f2b4376c</a>)</p><p>"Yes, Obama prevented an even greater collapse in 2009. But he also failed to prosecute the banking executives responsible for the housing crisis, then approved a foreclosure wave under the guise of helping homeowners. Though <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/152213/majority-americans-gov-help-stop-foreclosures.aspx" target="_blank">58 percent of Americans </a>were in favor of government action to halt foreclosures, Obama’s administration balked. And voters noticed. <a href="http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/us-economy/" target="_blank">Fewer than four in 10</a> Americans were happy with his economic policies this time last year (though that was an all-time high for Obama). And by Election Day, <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-mood-idUSKBN1332NC?il=0" target="_blank">75 percent of voters </a>were looking for someone who could take the country back “from the rich and powerful,” something unlikely to be done by members of the party that let the financiers behind the 2008 financial crisis walk free."</p><p></p><p>(<a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html" target="_blank">https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html</a>)</p><p>" Historically, the deeper a recession, the more robust the recovery that follows, but the economy’s rebound under Obama was the worst in seven decades. Annual GDP growth since the recession ended has averaged a feeble 2.1 percent, by far the puniest economic performance of any president since World War II. Obama <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009" target="_blank">spent more public funds on “stimulus”</a> than all previous stimulus programs combined, with wretched, counterproductive results. On his watch, millions of additional Americans fell below the poverty line. The number of food stamp recipients soared. The national debt doubled to an incredible $20 trillion. According to the Pew Research Center, the share of young adults (18- to 34-year-olds) living in their parents’ homes is the highest it has been since the Great Depression."</p><p></p><p>"Far from reducing costs, Obamacare sent <a href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/insurers-seek-big-premium-boosts-1464220397" target="_blank">premiums</a> and <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/obamacare-deductibles-are-on-the-rise-for-2017-along-with-monthly-premiums.html" target="_blank">deductibles</a> skyrocketing. Insurance companies, having suffered billions of dollars in losses on the Obamacare exchanges, have pulled out from many of them, leaving consumers in much of the country with few or no options."</p><p></p><p>"In his rush to pull US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, he created a power vacuum into which terror networks expanded and <a href="http://time.com/4395255/president-barack-obama-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal/" target="_blank">the Taliban revived</a>. Islamic State’s jihadist savagery not only plunged a stabilized Iraq back into shuddering violence, but also inspired <a href="http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/article/21050" target="_blank">scores of lethal terrorist attacks</a> in the West."</p><p></p><p>"Overall then, the American Taxpayer Relief Act seems to have not had much of an effect at all on economic growth. "</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Overall it'd be extremely unfair to call him the worst president, he inherited alot of shit.</p><p>Though, out of the 3 (bush obama and trump) I think trump is the best because of his anti establishment philosophy and desire for real change.</p><p></p><p>Even beyond the economic stuff, Obama supported terrorism by purposely leaving equipment behind for the proxy army isis. (lots of articles on this <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+leaves+equipment+for+isis&oq=obama+leaves+equipment+for+isis&aqs=chrome..69i57.5166j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+leaves+equipment+for+isis&oq=obama+leaves+equipment+for+isis&aqs=chrome..69i57.5166j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8</a>)</p><p>He humorously claimed race relations in america are the best they have ever been... yikes.</p><p>And to finish it off; "Kennedy sent man to the moon, Obama sent them to the womans bathroom." lol</p><p>[doublepost=1519314669,1519314487][/doublepost]</p><p>I conclude with this ^</p><p>I still stand with the saying "Presidents get selected, not elected". Let's not forget Trump is an actor just like Reagan was</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="griimnak, post: 428798, member: 35695"] Well you're right about the shit he inherited, to be fair though trump also inherited somewhat of a mess- nothing near the crisis of 2008 but, yeah. And the philosophy i'm referring to is his america first lingo, or just general change, no more of the same shit as the last 8 years- anti establishment here's the data on the economic shit; ([URL]https://internationalbanker.com/brokerage/economic-impact-obama-presidency-2009-2017/[/URL]) [IMG]http://internationalbanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Graph-1-1.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://internationalbanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Graph-3.png[/IMG] [SPOILER="A bunch of shit you probably don't care about"] ([URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/12/democrats-cant-win-until-they-recognize-how-bad-obamas-financial-policies-were/?utm_term=.9cc6f2b4376c[/URL]) "Yes, Obama prevented an even greater collapse in 2009. But he also failed to prosecute the banking executives responsible for the housing crisis, then approved a foreclosure wave under the guise of helping homeowners. Though [URL='http://www.gallup.com/poll/152213/majority-americans-gov-help-stop-foreclosures.aspx']58 percent of Americans [/URL]were in favor of government action to halt foreclosures, Obama’s administration balked. And voters noticed. [URL='http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/us-economy/']Fewer than four in 10[/URL] Americans were happy with his economic policies this time last year (though that was an all-time high for Obama). And by Election Day, [URL='http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-mood-idUSKBN1332NC?il=0']75 percent of voters [/URL]were looking for someone who could take the country back “from the rich and powerful,” something unlikely to be done by members of the party that let the financiers behind the 2008 financial crisis walk free." ([URL]https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2017/01/08/home-and-abroad-obama-trail-disasters/YOaU1KuAT3hSHaGHkmGCeN/story.html[/URL]) " Historically, the deeper a recession, the more robust the recovery that follows, but the economy’s rebound under Obama was the worst in seven decades. Annual GDP growth since the recession ended has averaged a feeble 2.1 percent, by far the puniest economic performance of any president since World War II. Obama [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009']spent more public funds on “stimulus”[/URL] than all previous stimulus programs combined, with wretched, counterproductive results. On his watch, millions of additional Americans fell below the poverty line. The number of food stamp recipients soared. The national debt doubled to an incredible $20 trillion. According to the Pew Research Center, the share of young adults (18- to 34-year-olds) living in their parents’ homes is the highest it has been since the Great Depression." "Far from reducing costs, Obamacare sent [URL='http://www.wsj.com/articles/insurers-seek-big-premium-boosts-1464220397']premiums[/URL] and [URL='http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/obamacare-deductibles-are-on-the-rise-for-2017-along-with-monthly-premiums.html']deductibles[/URL] skyrocketing. Insurance companies, having suffered billions of dollars in losses on the Obamacare exchanges, have pulled out from many of them, leaving consumers in much of the country with few or no options." "In his rush to pull US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, he created a power vacuum into which terror networks expanded and [URL='http://time.com/4395255/president-barack-obama-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal/']the Taliban revived[/URL]. Islamic State’s jihadist savagery not only plunged a stabilized Iraq back into shuddering violence, but also inspired [URL='http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/article/21050']scores of lethal terrorist attacks[/URL] in the West." "Overall then, the American Taxpayer Relief Act seems to have not had much of an effect at all on economic growth. " [/SPOILER] Overall it'd be extremely unfair to call him the worst president, he inherited alot of shit. Though, out of the 3 (bush obama and trump) I think trump is the best because of his anti establishment philosophy and desire for real change. Even beyond the economic stuff, Obama supported terrorism by purposely leaving equipment behind for the proxy army isis. (lots of articles on this [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+leaves+equipment+for+isis&oq=obama+leaves+equipment+for+isis&aqs=chrome..69i57.5166j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8[/URL]) He humorously claimed race relations in america are the best they have ever been... yikes. And to finish it off; "Kennedy sent man to the moon, Obama sent them to the womans bathroom." lol [doublepost=1519314669,1519314487][/doublepost] I conclude with this ^ I still stand with the saying "Presidents get selected, not elected". Let's not forget Trump is an actor just like Reagan was [/QUOTE]
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