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<blockquote data-quote="Macemore" data-source="post: 347446" data-attributes="member: 6113"><p>Nah what I'm saying is you can cut windows defender out of the program and substitute it with something that actually does it's job without installing other shit along with it. Think of windows like an adware company. Yes, they'll let you download that program for free, but you have to click &quot;advanced&quot; options to disable the installation of ask toolbar (this is an example). Windows disguises updates as one thing, and they might do what they say they do but they also install other stuff, like telemetry, you know, they key logging data scrubbing program Microsoft made for windows 10 that's put patched to 8 and 7 now. So the same problem with Windows 10 is now in Windows 7 and 8/8.1 because they disguised it as a few updates, actually 4-5 updates. So instead of removing a couple of &quot;critical&quot; updates, editing my registry and disabling certain windows services, I installed malware bytes and disabled windows update.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Macemore, post: 347446, member: 6113"] Nah what I'm saying is you can cut windows defender out of the program and substitute it with something that actually does it's job without installing other shit along with it. Think of windows like an adware company. Yes, they'll let you download that program for free, but you have to click "advanced" options to disable the installation of ask toolbar (this is an example). Windows disguises updates as one thing, and they might do what they say they do but they also install other stuff, like telemetry, you know, they key logging data scrubbing program Microsoft made for windows 10 that's put patched to 8 and 7 now. So the same problem with Windows 10 is now in Windows 7 and 8/8.1 because they disguised it as a few updates, actually 4-5 updates. So instead of removing a couple of "critical" updates, editing my registry and disabling certain windows services, I installed malware bytes and disabled windows update. [/QUOTE]

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