The Controversial Practices of Habba Hotel (habba.io)

Rain said:

Yeah fair enough, I did boot Liam. No pw reset for my account, then was banned the instant I made another account. Nothing but just taking the piss when I was tryna get my account back. I was fkin salty, but don't misperceive it's not like I run around booting ever sod. Might be hard to take my word for it though and I don't blame yas. Don't play all innocent and "I can't reset the pw" Because even tho you might not have access to it you definitely could have helped. You've always been a bit of a dick mr liam, I literally dmed you saying hi when I came back to retros and you ignored it and proceeded to bash me/my hotel elsewhere on the forums.

The vote boosting was months ago when we had a large dip in traffic after the GSM community went back to GSM, it was only a few days before i realised it was pointless and I didn't have time to do it every day, yeah I shouldn't have done this, but I can provide proof that our website does get the daily votes we have been obtaining. We get between 1-2k uniques a day, around 8k a week

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The votes over the past few months were not boosted.

As for addbot, what bigger hotel doesn't have a bot feature It's the best way to populate an event room when the hotels a bit quiet, gets people to come to the room and play events.. Anybody who's been on habba for a while knows the bots fish mince geography and hearts.. It's nothing new or surprising.

I'm not even going to say much about the link to that other forum post, because the entire thing was bullshit and a large attempt to paint a picture about habba that just wasnt't true. In the comments I already explained what happened and don't need to do it again.

How come I've been permanently banned when other retros such as jordz' was suspended for two weeks? I don't advertise on other retros, you wouldn't see me on habhub advertising, I pull my traffic from paid ads on facebook and tiktok, have invested a significant amount of money to keep this community alive, and findretros significantly helps with that.
If you really don't have any hate towards me then let's end this beef right here, but that starts with you treating me the same as you would treat other people.

This is nothing more than an old owner trying to rip down the community she chose to leave. Apparently if she cant have it nobody can!

Please don't ruin what we've all built. Does this nonsense really warrant a permanent ban when I really haven't hurt or effected anybody? It wasn't like I booted you for months I sent one attack in a moment of rage from a free booter It literally worked for 5 minutes.. Try not to give me too much credit

Lifes busy for me, Habba has become something that keeps my household afloat.. it's not exactly just a game anymore, and it would be pretty damaging to loose over a post that has been written with great intent to wound me.

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Unfortunately I did use a free booter to send an attack, I'm not sure it did much but I did get pissed off and do it, not something I do tho. Believe me or don't
As for the second part, you hit the nail on the head. We won't just go on peoples accounts for no reason, if they need help with something or its older than 6 months we will recycle the rares for economy. It's been regularly posted that accounts older than 6 months are susceptible to loose their rares.

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adore said:

I don't care about pinching users lol, if users wanna follow they can. You can reply to me on a dev best post now because you reputation is being damaged but you didn't care about what you were doing directly to me and everyone else at the time did you? You decided to ban me and block me instead of discussing, dont turn this round on me I think you forget who carried your hotel for months on end while you made money off it.

I didn't post this, and if I did I would of added alot more.. fair play to whoever did post it though! It was only a matter of time until you were caught up on your unfair acts. People like you are what makes the retro community unfair. Its 2024 retros are DYING if your relying on an online game to hold up your gaff then maybe its time to consider a job...

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Diddy said:

This is crazy behaviour. Any kind of botting is dishonest, and to me personally, if you're willing to bot, what else are you doing that you're hiding?

Why do retros need to feud with each other? Instead, spend your time creating new features that users may be interested in and focus on yourself instead of other hotels - out of jealousy. Why can retros not help each other and encourage each other? It would make a better environment.

DDoSing is immature and serves no purpose 'even if it was done because someones salty'.

TLDR: Grow up and help each other. Be mature.

(Not directed at any particular hotel. Just a general take that these silly games and arguments are immature and hotel owners should be the better person and be mature about disagreements)

Also, complaining because you're banned, I would say, achieves nothing. Unhappy with any one persons actions I would consider approaching their 'supervisor' and discussing not taking it out on people. Again my take and how I would approach things in the real world.

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DDDDec said:

boi yoi yoinggggggg

best habbo retro development ive seen in years not gunna lie

how to set this up?

source code?

what's the decryption key for the files?

download link don't work reupload?

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Diddy said:

Have you even downloaded xampp and hamachi to get started yet?

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Rain said:

You were working with grae and geo and tom to pinch habbas staff and users... the shit talking on hotel, egging staff on to quit, and directly dming staff to poach is more than enough of a reason. Denying it is pointless because I saw you conversations with them, I know yall was all aware. I won't be arguing with you on here that's for sure.
There is a reason I blocked you on discord.
Nice one with this post, hope you feel accomplished. In the end it's not me you rdirectly hurting, it's the community on Habba and potentially my household.

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HorheTheGreat98 said:

Hello m8 geo here

nice to see you've tried to name and shame me for pinching staff and users.

1. Had one conversation w/ a member of your staff asking if she'd like to come over because she was literally crying for help due to the ill treatment she had received, as for the rest of the community keep um pal

2. L

All the best
-Geo
xo

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Sledmore said:

Habboon bot's the user count / users, or voting count? I can't show anything for votes, but if it is done - it's unauthorised.

Would love to know how/why you think this though.

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Attached a video of some analytics (Cloudflare, Google & Grafana), in which you can see our relatively consistent 6 month trend.

Also showed some queries being run, and the read only client count that updates the database.

Yes, obviously - I could be hiding things, and could create some sort of fake users - but I'm not, whether you believe me or not - I'm not too bothered.

We're a dying community as it is, creating artificial users doesn't benefit anyone.

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Liam said:

You shouldn't even own a server. Your ego is so big that you try to play dumb until you realise the evidence is public.

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You morons use the same excuse until you get caught. Talk about ruining what has been built.. You do that yourself. I couldn't care less about a ranking, but the site is definitely better without people like you on it, cheating their way to the top and attacking others because you're falling behind. Maybe if you spent more time on your own project, you would do better.

FYI, each suspension is unique. Others have received permanent bans for continuing after a 2 week suspension. YOU have been doing this for years on previous hotels:

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and I won't be removing your suspension because you claim there's an issue on my side.

The FindRetros owner replied to you himself, what more did you want me to do?

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Visitors does not = votes. Especially if you have to fake them. (I couldn't care less if you bot users or DDoS me, but when you play victim when you're caught out for abusing a system that should be fair, there's the issue.)

As for affecting your household..... this is not how you would behave in a real life environment. Perhaps this is not the right job for you.

Also, sorry I didn't respond to your "hi" message.

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Legend said:

This is actually incredible. Habba has been invested in dishonest tactics making it almost impossible to keep morale when launching a new hotel.

Adding bots and rigging votes is insane behavior especially with the rigorous moderation that exists in Habba. It’s like to be hired you need to be a social reject who is offended by common language. The lot of them sanction with no regard to logic, as if the user count is real and it will be forever standing.

Relying on a retro’s success to fund your household is truly comical, not even Kane allowed Fresh to be his only source of income and he’s made tens of thousands through his project, if not more.

To rely on botting your users and your votes is despicable. For about a week I fell into the habit of botting votes because I knew competition was doing it so heavily but I’ve never manipulated user counts through use of bots or afk clients or even a code saying if I have less than 22 online, add 30 users to the count.

I do wish the retro community were more inclusive as it used to be. Now there is so much tension between everyone in the community and regardless of how nice you try to be, you end up shit on. Habba has received plenty of my resources and still uses them. Developmentally, it has to be among one of the most half assed retros I’ve seen in existence. With the sales volume, surely you could afford some quality? Both clients are littered with bugs and glitches, just not even an enjoyable experience. I don’t understand the retention of the real users on the game.

Also @Rain is one to cry about not getting a response, every time we’ve interacted has been friendly and on the upside but still end up deleted for some reason.

As one who paid for many of the resources involved in my project(s), I must say you are incredibly fortunate to have found individuals like @adore who slaved for hours upon hours to build up the community you now rely on to fuel your lifestyle. I spent $100s on things you received for free from her. I can’t imagine the others who continue to put into the steaming pile of dog shit that you keep on the internet.

Hopefully the RP you guys are working on won’t follow in the same footsteps and will be something enjoyable for the community. If you can’t beat Bobba in features, maybe you should cease development before the embarrassment sets in.

Thanks!

Oh shit, I forgot - LASTLY!
How can you ban someone for poaching staff and users that they worked to get you? Staff that confided in them while working alongside or under them and users that only stuck around due to their efforts? If you have to ban to maintain your users, that’s comical. They should know where is most suitable for their patronage.

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Rain said:

"You shouldn't even own a server. Your ego is so big that you try to play dumb until you realise the evidence is public."
I actually just forgot, and was dumbfounded I was banned as it was months ago. Also talking about my ego and telling me I shouldn't own a server indicates a large ego of your own. Who are you to decide who can and cant have a retro? lol.

"You morons use the same excuse until you get caught. Talk about ruining what has been built.. You do that yourself. I couldn't care less about a ranking, but the site is definitely better without people like you on it, cheating their way to the top and attacking others because you're falling behind. Maybe if you spent more time on your own project, you would do better."
Sorry but you got a bit wrong there.. Habba earned its way to the top and the votes I boosted actually wouldn't have changed anything. I was getting a good 200 more than the hotel below at the time and only boosted about 40 votes to keep us around 250, I was never trying to cheat to the top, only trying to maintain my hotels image in the eyes of the public. Didn't work out in the long run and in hindsight I really shouldn't have but we all make mistakes.

"FYI, each suspension is unique. Others have received permanent bans for continuing after a 2 week suspension. YOU have been doing this for years on previous hotels:

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and I won't be removing your suspension because you claim there's an issue on my side.
The FindRetros owner replied to you himself, what more did you want me to do?"
Peace was sold to Hayden, there's a few people who can confirm this. I actually had nothing to do with it for the last year or so of the hotel. See here:

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And yes, he replied, saying my email was a bunch of random characters, so I replied, to which I never got a reply. Nothing happened, you were all there, you all could have helped, but nobody did. and it looked intentional. And it's not a matter of authentication either because yall banned habbas page in a heartbeat from a forum post that could have been entirely fake doctored screenshots. I could have denied everything and played games, but I am being real.

"Visitors does not = votes. Especially if you have to fake them. (I couldn't care less if you bot users or DDoS me, but when you play victim when you're caught out for abusing a system that should be fair, there's the issue.)"
Well actually it kinda does.... The more unique traffic hitting your website each day, the more votes you get... It definitely won't be 1:1 but there definitely is a fairly consistent ratio. No I shouldn't have boosted those votes, valid asf, but I do feel partly a victim in this case, - I'm well aware I'm far from being in the right. I did boost votes for a day or two but it wouldn't have "cheated" anybody apart from myself. I didn't block anybody from second place, if I was going to play like that I could have boosted 100 each day to stay above Bobba. I also used a free booter to send you a flood in a moment of rage, but we're only human. We make mistakes. Mistakes have consequences yes, but I will say that this all feels a little off. like if I was permanently banned from findretros, why didn't I get banned from day 1? Why allow me up until this point? Just the screenshot saying that I boosted 40 votes a while back when the hotel struggled?
It seems and looks like you actually very much do care about a "ranking" as you jumped at the opportunity to ban me, and its not the first time. When yall wouldn't reset my pw and I was forced to make another account, the old account was banned in less than 24 hours How can you say that you have never had an issue and then name call, insult, and degrade?

"As for affecting your household..... this is not how you would behave in a real life environment. Perhaps this is not the right job for you."
No, it's not my job, it's a side hustle. I work full time as well as running this hotel, it pushes the monthly income just above where it needs to be to cover bills. I'm not going to justify not explain my reasoning to you but just know not every country is doing great right now.. Some people are really struggling and have to make money in more ways than 1 just to keep living. Talk about egos hot DAMN.

"Also, sorry I didn't respond to your "hi" message."
Gosh thanks bro this really shows me that you don't have an issue


For everyone else reading this bullshit, feel free to DM me directly about it if you want answers. Rain.0 is my discord.

Post automatically merged: Oct 15, 2024

If you're blocked on discord it will be for good reason, I only block people who don't leave me alone, play games, or keep adding me to group chats. DM me on here if you want to chat about it, I'll search for your user and unblock on discord. I don't remember blocking you, might have been a mistake..

As for the rest of it... It's clear who's been in your ear. Just know kate likes to leave out everything SHE did and just paint others out to be the villain. Know there is more to it than what you've been told. I won't entertain the kate nonsense any longer.

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Rain said:

"You shouldn't even own a server. Your ego is so big that you try to play dumb until you realise the evidence is public."
I actually just forgot, and was dumbfounded I was banned as it was months ago. Also talking about my ego and telling me I shouldn't own a server indicates a large ego of your own. Who are you to decide who can and cant have a retro? lol.

"You morons use the same excuse until you get caught. Talk about ruining what has been built.. You do that yourself. I couldn't care less about a ranking, but the site is definitely better without people like you on it, cheating their way to the top and attacking others because you're falling behind. Maybe if you spent more time on your own project, you would do better."
Sorry but you got a bit wrong there.. Habba earned its way to the top and the votes I boosted actually wouldn't have changed anything. I was getting a good 200 more than the hotel below at the time and only boosted about 40 votes to keep us around 250, I was never trying to cheat to the top, only trying to maintain my hotels image in the eyes of the public. Didn't work out in the long run and in hindsight I really shouldn't have but we all make mistakes.

"FYI, each suspension is unique. Others have received permanent bans for continuing after a 2 week suspension. YOU have been doing this for years on previous hotels:

You must be registered for see links

and I won't be removing your suspension because you claim there's an issue on my side.
The FindRetros owner replied to you himself, what more did you want me to do?"
Peace was sold to Hayden, there's a few people who can confirm this. I actually had nothing to do with it for the last year or so of the hotel. See here:

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And yes, he replied, saying my email was a bunch of random characters, so I replied, to which I never got a reply. Nothing happened, you were all there, you all could have helped, but nobody did. and it looked intentional. And it's not a matter of authentication either because yall banned habbas page in a heartbeat from a forum post that could have been entirely fake doctored screenshots. I could have denied everything and played games, but I am being real.

"Visitors does not = votes. Especially if you have to fake them. (I couldn't care less if you bot users or DDoS me, but when you play victim when you're caught out for abusing a system that should be fair, there's the issue.)"
Well actually it kinda does.... The more unique traffic hitting your website each day, the more votes you get... It definitely won't be 1:1 but there definitely is a fairly consistent ratio. No I shouldn't have boosted those votes, valid asf, but I do feel partly a victim in this case, - I'm well aware I'm far from being in the right. I did boost votes for a day or two but it wouldn't have "cheated" anybody apart from myself. I didn't block anybody from second place, if I was going to play like that I could have boosted 100 each day to stay above Bobba. I also used a free booter to send you a flood in a moment of rage, but we're only human. We make mistakes. Mistakes have consequences yes, but I will say that this all feels a little off. like if I was permanently banned from findretros, why didn't I get banned from day 1? Why allow me up until this point? Just the screenshot saying that I boosted 40 votes a while back when the hotel struggled?
It seems and looks like you actually very much do care about a "ranking" as you jumped at the opportunity to ban me, and its not the first time. When yall wouldn't reset my pw and I was forced to make another account, the old account was banned in less than 24 hours How can you say that you have never had an issue and then name call, insult, and degrade?

"As for affecting your household..... this is not how you would behave in a real life environment. Perhaps this is not the right job for you."
No, it's not my job, it's a side hustle. I work full time as well as running this hotel, it pushes the monthly income just above where it needs to be to cover bills. I'm not going to justify not explain my reasoning to you but just know not every country is doing great right now.. Some people are really struggling and have to make money in more ways than 1 just to keep living. Talk about egos hot DAMN.

"Also, sorry I didn't respond to your "hi" message."
Gosh thanks bro this really shows me that you don't have an issue


For everyone else reading this bullshit, feel free to DM me directly about it if you want answers. Rain.0 is my discord.

Post automatically merged: Oct 15, 2024

If you're blocked on discord it will be for good reason, I only block people who don't leave me alone, play games, or keep adding me to group chats. DM me on here if you want to chat about it, I'll search for your user and unblock on discord. I don't remember blocking you, might have been a mistake..

As for the rest of it... It's clear who's been in your ear. Just know kate likes to leave out everything SHE did and just paint others out to be the villain. Know there is more to it than what you've been told. I won't entertain the kate nonsense any longer.

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