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<blockquote data-quote="treebeard" data-source="post: 430056" data-attributes="member: 79259"><p>Honestly, all the advertising in the world won't help this site. </p><p></p><p>I predict that a large percentage of the incoming traffic for Devbest is through people googling terms that have to deal with Habbo. </p><p></p><p>With that said, in my time on Devbest (~ 2 months) I have seen a HUUGE number of people who come into the chatbox or make very basic/poor threads about Habbo literally get talked down to till they disappear. </p><p></p><p>The problem with Devbest, in my opinion, is honestly the level of condescending attitudes that new users are met with when they arrive. Now, I have also been a computer person most of my life so things that I consider "common knowledge," I know are not. In an age where even common sense is becoming a lost art, it seems funny that we should expect users to know how to properly work dev tools, how to properly analyze an error message, how to declare/define a variable, etc.</p><p></p><p>Now don't take this as me saying we should kiss the asses of new comers and hold their hand through everything but I do think that ~60% of any message that you try to convey to someone is through body language and tone. Being as we are on the internet, body language is all but removed from the equation; leaving only tone left in a large portion of the messages we try to deliver to people. When you are insulting, displaying rude sarcasm, and being a general asshole in your non-verbal tone which is used on the internet; it leaves new users very turned off. </p><p></p><p>I know it's annoying seeing the same questions asked when there are literally 10+ threads with answers. I've already noticed myself getting annoyed with these questions and I have been on here a considerably shorter amount of time compared to a lot of you veterans. However, I think there is some importance in politely showing someone how to properly find answers, post threads, or do their own research.</p><p></p><p>The best thing to maybe work on realizing is that a forum is not made great by having approx. 10 great contributors but instead by creating and facilitating an environment that is effective in it's ability to spread and further our understanding of ideas. Devbest has become a dichotomy in which the veterans/more experienced users work together (not even as i can tell lol), and the lesser informed are left to scramble together in an attempt to build a project that will most likely never be finished or actualized to it's fullest potential due to lack of professional advice/teachings. If there were perhaps some workshops lead by veterans, community noob projects, or something of the sort; then maybe some newer users would actually rise up, stick around, and be able to sit in the place that many of you are in now. </p><p></p><p>Just by tidbit on the matter <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emojione/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Disclaimer: this is an opinion, treat it as such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="treebeard, post: 430056, member: 79259"] Honestly, all the advertising in the world won't help this site. I predict that a large percentage of the incoming traffic for Devbest is through people googling terms that have to deal with Habbo. With that said, in my time on Devbest (~ 2 months) I have seen a HUUGE number of people who come into the chatbox or make very basic/poor threads about Habbo literally get talked down to till they disappear. The problem with Devbest, in my opinion, is honestly the level of condescending attitudes that new users are met with when they arrive. Now, I have also been a computer person most of my life so things that I consider "common knowledge," I know are not. In an age where even common sense is becoming a lost art, it seems funny that we should expect users to know how to properly work dev tools, how to properly analyze an error message, how to declare/define a variable, etc. Now don't take this as me saying we should kiss the asses of new comers and hold their hand through everything but I do think that ~60% of any message that you try to convey to someone is through body language and tone. Being as we are on the internet, body language is all but removed from the equation; leaving only tone left in a large portion of the messages we try to deliver to people. When you are insulting, displaying rude sarcasm, and being a general asshole in your non-verbal tone which is used on the internet; it leaves new users very turned off. I know it's annoying seeing the same questions asked when there are literally 10+ threads with answers. I've already noticed myself getting annoyed with these questions and I have been on here a considerably shorter amount of time compared to a lot of you veterans. However, I think there is some importance in politely showing someone how to properly find answers, post threads, or do their own research. The best thing to maybe work on realizing is that a forum is not made great by having approx. 10 great contributors but instead by creating and facilitating an environment that is effective in it's ability to spread and further our understanding of ideas. Devbest has become a dichotomy in which the veterans/more experienced users work together (not even as i can tell lol), and the lesser informed are left to scramble together in an attempt to build a project that will most likely never be finished or actualized to it's fullest potential due to lack of professional advice/teachings. If there were perhaps some workshops lead by veterans, community noob projects, or something of the sort; then maybe some newer users would actually rise up, stick around, and be able to sit in the place that many of you are in now. Just by tidbit on the matter :) Disclaimer: this is an opinion, treat it as such. [/QUOTE]
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