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R.I.P Juice WRLD - Gone but never forgotten.
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<blockquote data-quote="LeChris" data-source="post: 455155" data-attributes="member: 37998"><p>It's funny people think openly talking about drugs having the ability to kill you, destroying your life and only able to experience happiness with them is "bragging about it." </p><p></p><p>Admitting faults publicly and speaking on them is no where near encouraging people to do it. Peep, X and Juice all talked about the pros and cons. </p><p></p><p>It's easy enough for a bunch of people to say "well you should never do drugs in the first place" or similar things. But, unless you grow up in that lifestyle</p><p>amongst the negative influences all around you from family members, randoms, abusive police and so forth - you won't understand the reasons why people turn to drugs.</p><p>It literally is drugs or suicide for most people. </p><p></p><p>The rebab centers, counsellors and any other services offered to help combat these 'problem's all suck. The people working in them usually are abusive, do it for cash only and don't care about the humanity portion. Or the places are under funded and cannot even afford to provide the promised services. You end up with people spending weeks heavily medicated on smaller doses of drugs they abuse suddenly being kicked out and put back on the street after being "rehabbed." </p><p></p><p>America literally just bullies the people suffering, throws out half baked solutions and gets pissed at the victims when they fail. This entire thread is victim shaming at its best. </p><p></p><p>We get it, he overdosed and it's his "fault." Quit looking at it as if he wasn't a human capable of failing. Being successful has no relation with magically abstaining from anything bad. Celebrities usually end up on heavier drugs because they're overworked, have no privacy and are forced to live multiple lives for the sake of their corporate sponsors. Shit, I feel bad for him. The man was just trying to get through the day and lost his life for it.</p><p></p><p>Drugs shouldn't have the ability to put you in the same predicament as people who commit murder, assault or violent crimes. Because our legal system is flawed, people either serve 30+ years over weed or overdose to escape the horrible life in prisons.</p><p></p><p><strong>Also,</strong></p><p>Why are we mentioning X? They are in a similar genre but are not the same people. If you don't know who the dude is, look him up and give him a minute for respect. </p><p>It's the same as your neighbor telling you to piss off when a family member dies because they never met them. Juice was someone's son, someone's grand child, boyfriend and more. Respect his living family</p><p>if you won't respect him.</p><p>[automerge]1576190931[/automerge]</p><p></p><p>Homeless people usually have higher rates of mental illness. </p><p></p><p>Mental illness victims have substantially higher rates of drug abuse. The likelihood of getting addicted to drugs is higher, likelihood of even trying drugs is higher and they are around people who probably used or want to use due to </p><p></p><p>Mental illness is the cause of the problem and drug abuse is just the side effect. Not every mentally ill person will turn to drugs and not every drug user is mentally ill. But the highest amount of users, suffer heavily without help for mental illness. It's a very expensive problem to handle (Psych doctors are literally hundreds a hour, therapists are hundred a hour, general doctors are hundreds a hour) and that's not including the trial and effort effect of having hundreds of different medications that may or may not work. </p><p></p><p>Treating mental health on my end has been literally thousands of dollars and it's only getting marginally better year after year. I take this drug issue personally after seeing friends, family members and others suffer from it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LeChris, post: 455155, member: 37998"] It's funny people think openly talking about drugs having the ability to kill you, destroying your life and only able to experience happiness with them is "bragging about it." Admitting faults publicly and speaking on them is no where near encouraging people to do it. Peep, X and Juice all talked about the pros and cons. It's easy enough for a bunch of people to say "well you should never do drugs in the first place" or similar things. But, unless you grow up in that lifestyle amongst the negative influences all around you from family members, randoms, abusive police and so forth - you won't understand the reasons why people turn to drugs. It literally is drugs or suicide for most people. The rebab centers, counsellors and any other services offered to help combat these 'problem's all suck. The people working in them usually are abusive, do it for cash only and don't care about the humanity portion. Or the places are under funded and cannot even afford to provide the promised services. You end up with people spending weeks heavily medicated on smaller doses of drugs they abuse suddenly being kicked out and put back on the street after being "rehabbed." America literally just bullies the people suffering, throws out half baked solutions and gets pissed at the victims when they fail. This entire thread is victim shaming at its best. We get it, he overdosed and it's his "fault." Quit looking at it as if he wasn't a human capable of failing. Being successful has no relation with magically abstaining from anything bad. Celebrities usually end up on heavier drugs because they're overworked, have no privacy and are forced to live multiple lives for the sake of their corporate sponsors. Shit, I feel bad for him. The man was just trying to get through the day and lost his life for it. Drugs shouldn't have the ability to put you in the same predicament as people who commit murder, assault or violent crimes. Because our legal system is flawed, people either serve 30+ years over weed or overdose to escape the horrible life in prisons. [B]Also,[/B] Why are we mentioning X? They are in a similar genre but are not the same people. If you don't know who the dude is, look him up and give him a minute for respect. It's the same as your neighbor telling you to piss off when a family member dies because they never met them. Juice was someone's son, someone's grand child, boyfriend and more. Respect his living family if you won't respect him. [automerge]1576190931[/automerge] Homeless people usually have higher rates of mental illness. Mental illness victims have substantially higher rates of drug abuse. The likelihood of getting addicted to drugs is higher, likelihood of even trying drugs is higher and they are around people who probably used or want to use due to Mental illness is the cause of the problem and drug abuse is just the side effect. Not every mentally ill person will turn to drugs and not every drug user is mentally ill. But the highest amount of users, suffer heavily without help for mental illness. It's a very expensive problem to handle (Psych doctors are literally hundreds a hour, therapists are hundred a hour, general doctors are hundreds a hour) and that's not including the trial and effort effect of having hundreds of different medications that may or may not work. Treating mental health on my end has been literally thousands of dollars and it's only getting marginally better year after year. I take this drug issue personally after seeing friends, family members and others suffer from it. [/QUOTE]
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