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<blockquote data-quote="Leader" data-source="post: 483391" data-attributes="member: 21320">NodeJS is not a framework.&nbsp; I do use NestJS which came out in 2018 <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emojione/smile.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" data-shortname=":)" /> That being said, pHp came out in 1995.&nbsp; Node 2010, Go 2012, Rust 2015.&nbsp; phP is literally older than I am php was my first language and i used laravel, cakephp, illuminate and all the other bs.&nbsp; i left php for languages that have much better type support and performance.&nbsp; i use it now and then if a job requires it, but don't go out of my way for it.&nbsp; laravel isn't bad, but it's not my cup of tea.&nbsp; it's a framework made for people that hate coding.&nbsp; laravel abstracts 90% of development away so people can make really impressive apps, but have little to no idea of what's actually being done beneath the surface /</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Leader, post: 483391, member: 21320"] NodeJS is not a framework. I do use NestJS which came out in 2018 :) That being said, pHp came out in 1995. Node 2010, Go 2012, Rust 2015. phP is literally older than I am php was my first language and i used laravel, cakephp, illuminate and all the other bs. i left php for languages that have much better type support and performance. i use it now and then if a job requires it, but don't go out of my way for it. laravel isn't bad, but it's not my cup of tea. it's a framework made for people that hate coding. laravel abstracts 90% of development away so people can make really impressive apps, but have little to no idea of what's actually being done beneath the surface / [/QUOTE]

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